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#41 ·
B.Wilkins_85 said:
Since Toyota locked out a huge portion of the battery, only 65 kWh is actually usable—so at 3.3 mi/kWh, closer to 215 miles max range is more likely. Though 5 kWh of that 65 kWh is effectively hidden below 0%, so unless you're willing to risk it and drive blind on 'empty,' actual range at 3.3 mi/kWh is ~198 miles. Possibly a bit more if the vehicle's software is including estimated charging losses in its efficiency calculations (and I'm not entirely clear on this)—suppposedly they do in Europe, something which their software update addressed.
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Thank you. Toyota better get it together in the US and do a software update kick! I am a Toyota loyalist but the bZ4X launch was a total disaster.
 
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Getting 230+/- per charge.
I have maybe done 30+ level 3 charges. Always with ChargePoint. 95% at the same 2 chargers. I noted my finding in another thread. What I have found, no matter the current reported charge, I will reach 80% charge in 1 hr. +/- a minute. It can read 20% charge or 60% charge before I start charging, but it will always take 1 hr. to get to 80% reported charge. No more, no less.

Something else I should have reported earlier. If I have the AC on first thing, the dash will report 180 miles of potential range. This, I have found is pessimistic by 20+ miles. After doing 100 mile on the odometer, the potential remaining range is usually 95-100 miles. I have confirmed this over the last months or so. As with everything, your results may differ, but I have come to rely on these numbers over my 10,000 miles.
 
#47 ·
a2b said:
View attachment 1161 With reports of the bZ4X's real-world range dropping to half of what we were told the official range estimates would be, share your numbers here to see how it compares. It will be interesting to see where real-world range averages around along with the lowest and highest among our group. I have a feeling that we won't be far off from the reports, but I could be wrong.
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After 10k miles, mainly highway driving. Spring/summer weather, I've been getting 2.5 - 2.5 m/kWh or a range of 170-180 miles per charge. Anxious to see how much further drop will occur in the winter.
 
#48 ·
Check your Toyota connect app. You might have a software update notification. The update should fix the dramatic drop in range (to reflect a more accurate drop) with AC on and the charging curve along with the DC charging limit. Hopefully we all get a better experience with the range. I love driving my bz and would hate to get rid of it because of the range/charging.
 
#49 ·
Vern748 said:
Getting 230+/- per charge.
I have maybe done 30+ level 3 charges. Always with ChargePoint. 95% at the same 2 chargers. I noted my finding in another thread. What I have found, no matter the current reported charge, I will reach 80% charge in 1 hr. +/- a minute. It can read 20% charge or 60% charge before I start charging, but it will always take 1 hr. to get to 80% reported charge. No more, no less.

Something else I should have reported earlier. If I have the AC on first thing, the dash will report 180 miles of potential range. This, I have found is pessimistic by 20+ miles. After doing 100 mile on the odometer, the potential remaining range is usually 95-100 miles. I have confirmed this over the last months or so. As with everything, your results may differ, but I have come to rely on these numbers over my 10,000 miles.
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Yes, that pessimistic miles of range guess while heating/cooling is on with be more accurate with the dealer installed update that just became available. It should also give percent state of charge for the battery, which can be a more helpful metric to determine how much further you can go. As for charge rate, what you're seeing sounds like it's right where Toyota says is normal for this car (North American AWD version). I am skeptical how much that will improve with the update, but those of you with the update will hopefully find out soon enough.
davis.jeffreya said:
After 10k miles, mainly highway driving. Spring/summer weather, I've been getting 2.5 - 2.5 m/kWh or a range of 170-180 miles per charge. Anxious to see how much further drop will occur in the winter.
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Last winter, I averaged 2.3-2.4 mi/kWh driving mostly country roads in Maine. For freeway speeds in the 70s or so, I would expect lower, closer to 2-2.1 mi/kWh. This drop is largely due to how much energy it uses to keep the cabin warm, so if you can pre-warm the car while plugged in before heading out, that should help.
 
#50 ·
I get 3.1 or 3.2 mi/kWh. I had a couple of instances of getting right at 260 miles on one full charge, but I can't duplicate that now. And I am not mistaken about that because whne I first had the car I ran it to zero twice and was stranded once, so I was hyper vigilant about what my ranges were for about three months. I drive primarily fast highway speeds, and I mean I run this car hard. I routinely put it on 90+ mph and I like to taunt the boy racers. I am in the CA summer heat--I am getting about 200 miles with the AC on low manual. If I put it on Auto, I get significantly lower mileage. No doubt, the fan cycles at higher rpms and eats up some charge. I keep reading here and there that Toyota is going to increase the charging parameters so that we get another 15 % total or so....but at the dealership they act like they have never heard that. Hmmm....I love Toyota products but I do think this car has not been marketed properly nor is Toyota giving it the support it deserves. I have been following the press on the Lexus badged version; I was tempted to wait and buy the Lexus model but at the end of the day their add-ons were not worth the additional $15k to me.
 
#51 ·
Browntrout said:
I get 3.1 or 3.2 mi/kWh. I had a couple of instances of getting right at 260 miles on one full charge, but I can't duplicate that now. And I am not mistaken about that because whne I first had the car I ran it to zero twice and was stranded once, so I was hyper vigilant about what my ranges were for about three months. I drive primarily fast highway speeds, and I mean I run this car hard. I routinely put it on 90+ mph and I like to taunt the boy racers. I am in the CA summer heat--I am getting about 200 miles with the AC on low manual. If I put it on Auto, I get significantly lower mileage. No doubt, the fan cycles at higher rpms and eats up some charge. I keep reading here and there that Toyota is going to increase the charging parameters so that we get another 15 % total or so....but at the dealership they act like they have never heard that. Hmmm....I love Toyota products but I do think this car has not been marketed properly nor is Toyota giving it the support it deserves. I have been following the press on the Lexus badged version; I was tempted to wait and buy the Lexus model but at the end of the day their add-ons were not worth the additional $15k to me.
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The Lexus version range is even lower than the bZ!
 
#53 ·
I just got real range test here in Indonesia. After 284km trip I plugged the 50KW DC Charger, it says 42% Battery. 284Km use 58% of battery.
284/58 = 4.89/% Battery
so 100% Battery will get around 489KM.

The display cluster still say around 160Km after 284Km trip though.

This is with early software version. without any update from Toyota yet.
 
Discussion starter · #54 ·
damniatx said:
I just got real range test here in Indonesia. After 284km trip I plugged the 50KW DC Charger, it says 42% Battery. 284Km use 58% of battery.
284/58 = 4.89/% Battery
so 100% Battery will get around 489KM.

The display cluster still say around 160Km after 284Km trip though.

This is with early software version. without any update from Toyota yet.
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Welcome to the forum. What is public charging infrastructre like in Indonesia? What do people buy most of their? Do you notice enough people buying EVs these days?
 
#55 ·
a2b said:
Welcome to the forum. What is public charging infrastructre like in Indonesia? What do people buy most of their? Do you notice enough people buying EVs these days?
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Its pretty good now, a few luxury apartment will have DC Charger 50Kw, and at high ways, most of them have 200kw charger in 200km range maximum. we have a few subsidy from Goverment for electric vehicles. Most people have been buying Hyundai Ioniq 5, its quite popular around here. and they have their own charging stations with 200kw charging on famous mall and free of charge.

Yeah most people trying to convert to EV, since they have their own advantages over the ICE. but the EV Car still expensive than the ICE. thats the problem also. But buying real EV like Ioniq 5 or Bz4x is real challenge in Indonesia. last time when I was looking to buy ioniq 5, you need to wait for around a year before you can get your own unit. even this bz4x, is i was waiting from November last year, get the unit on July.
 
#58 ·
Had my car for 2 months now. I have averaged 430-446 km (267-277 miles) on a full charge. Using a FWD, GAC-Toyota. No winters in my country. I use Eco mode on airconditioning. I turn on (pseudo) one pedal driving. I drive mostly city. Nothing spirited.
 
#59 ·
Today, it was above freezing for the first time in at least a week or so (~37-45 degrees F throughout the day). I fully charged the battery (AWD model), reset my gauge's efficiency meter, and drove [mostly] without the heater; primarily just the heated steering wheel and occasionally the heated seats. On a 50 mile trip, I averaged 3.0 mi/kWh over the course of the trip. For the first 25 miles, before it started to rain [and the temperature dropped below 40], I was actually averaging over 4.0 mi/kWh (at around 50 mph/rural roads).
 
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