I had a Toyota Avalon hybrid (40 mpg) that I traded to get this. I might look to trade this for the new Toyota Crown AWD Hybrid when it comes out or I might give this to my wife and take her Toyota Venza Hybrid.
Toyota bZ4X Real-World Range Numbers
With reports of the bZ4X's real-world range dropping to half of what we were told the official range estimates would be, share your numbers here to see how it compares.
It will be interesting to see where real-world range averages around along with the lowest and highest among our group. I have a feeling that we won't be far off from the reports, but I could be wrong.
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I had a Toyota Avalon hybrid (40 mpg) that I traded to get this. I might look to trade this for the new Toyota Crown AWD Hybrid when it comes out or I might give this to my wife and take her Toyota Venza Hybrid.How likely are you to trade it in for something else? Have you tested any other EVs or hybrids?
A German Carmagazine (Autobild) tested the Soltera, only 245 km range, outside temperature 3 graden (winter), they were not at all impressed...... .
Inthe netherlands Toyota dealers are not at all enthusiast of the car as well as Toyota Netherlands, no marketing at all for the car.... . Sales are very bad, as well in Europa.
Inthe netherlands Toyota dealers are not at all enthusiast of the car as well as Toyota Netherlands, no marketing at all for the car.... . Sales are very bad, as well in Europa.
Had been driven over 2000km since early December, my average consumption is 5.0km/kwh. Mine is AWD with CATL battery. Temperature is around -10 degree to 8 degree throughout December. 50% City and 50% Highway. Climate control Eco Mode on. Driving Eco mode on. So I think when the temperature getting warm, the consumption would be better than this. (That mean one full charge can drive around 325km.
That converts to about 3.1 mi/kWh for the US drivers.
Not bad for temps in the 14F to 46F range.
Not bad for temps in the 14F to 46F range.
At those temperatures, your efficiency seems much better than what some have reported, and not too terribly far off from the U.S. EPA's official estimates for the AWD model.Had been driven over 2000km since early December, my average consumption is 5.0km/kwh. Mine is AWD with CATL battery. Temperature is around -10 degree to 8 degree throughout December. 50% City and 50% Highway. Climate control Eco Mode on. Driving Eco mode on. So I think when the temperature getting warm, the consumption would be better than this. (That mean one full charge can drive around 325km.
In 35-50 degree (F) weather, I am averaging only 2.1 miles/kWh with the AWD model—with trip averages ranging from ~1.3 miles/kWh to a max of 2.5 miles/kWh. Even bundled up with a coat and the climate control turned off entirely—plus ECO driving mode turned on, and keeping under 50 mph—I can't seem to exceed 2.5 mi/kWh. I wonder what the secret is. I know that EV efficiency in general suffers during the winter, but I really need to get more than 140 miles of range out of this vehicle.
I have had my xle AWD for a month. I am averaging maybe 2 miles/kwh. I live in a rural area, so routinely driving 55 mph. I have been keeping track and my real world range is about 54% of the cars estimated range. That’s using eco heat and driving like a Grandma. My prius prime’s range is much more accurate. Regenerative braking is a bust on hilly terrain. I am trading mine in for a RAV4 prime. I took a hit of 3000 off msrp and had to buy a used one with 5k on it for the same price as a new one or wait 8-12 months, but this car is barely functional for my family. I had to charge on the way home, had 25 miles of range left, 22F, wouldn’t DC fast charge. Tried two different chargers and I know they work b/c a Ford lightning was using one before I tried it. Had to drive to a level two and sit there for an hour to get 35 miles. 18 miles from home, drove with no heat on, landed in the driveway with 3 miles left. I think this is meant for suburban life with lower average speeds. I am disappointed, but have to cut my losses. There is also very little charging infrastructure in my area, which makes it difficult to use on longer trips. Hope Toyota figures this out. Maybe in five years when my prius needs to be replaced I will try for another EV. Good luck to you all.
Today, it was above freezing for the first time in at least a week or so (~37-45 degrees F throughout the day). I fully charged the battery (AWD model), reset my gauge's efficiency meter, and drove [mostly] without the heater; primarily just the heated steering wheel and occasionally the heated seats. On a 50 mile trip, I averaged 3.0 mi/kWh over the course of the trip. For the first 25 miles, before it started to rain [and the temperature dropped below 40], I was actually averaging over 4.0 mi/kWh (at around 50 mph/rural roads).
For whatever reason, running the heater on these vehicles absolutely eviscerates their efficiency (though it's worth mentioning that the heat pump is indeed quite effective at heating the cabin). On the other hand, I was happy to see that without running it, I could finally start to see the sorts of efficiency figures that would be necessary to actually hit the range numbers that this car was advertised at.
For whatever reason, running the heater on these vehicles absolutely eviscerates their efficiency (though it's worth mentioning that the heat pump is indeed quite effective at heating the cabin). On the other hand, I was happy to see that without running it, I could finally start to see the sorts of efficiency figures that would be necessary to actually hit the range numbers that this car was advertised at.
You are a Good One - This was the fourth Toyota We've purchased (my wife and I) with the last 4 years and the LAST. If I'm going to have negative equity I'll be giving that to another manufacturer - why give them even more money 🤔I had a Toyota Avalon hybrid (40 mpg) that I traded to get this. I might look to trade this for the new Toyota Crown AWD Hybrid when it comes out or I might give this to my wife and take her Toyota Venza Hybrid.
I live here in NJ-USA location... i noticed same thing. Even between 20-30 F temp range...the efficiency falls rapidly. I noticed few time 2.5 -2.8 miles per KWH. That is awful for 100 mile trip for daily work commute . if I follow 20-80 % battery range for longevity of battery. i am using 60 % of battery between charges.Today, it was above freezing for the first time in at least a week or so (~37-45 degrees F throughout the day). I fully charged the battery (AWD model), reset my gauge's efficiency meter, and drove [mostly] without the heater; primarily just the heated steering wheel and occasionally the heated seats. On a 50 mile trip, I averaged 3.0 mi/kWh over the course of the trip. For the first 25 miles, before it started to rain [and the temperature dropped below 40], I was actually averaging over 4.0 mi/kWh (at around 50 mph/rural roads).
For whatever reason, running the heater on these vehicles absolutely eviscerates their efficiency (though it's worth mentioning that the heat pump is indeed quite effective at heating the cabin). On the other hand, I was happy to see that without running it, I could finally start to see the sorts of efficiency figures that would be necessary to actually hit the range numbers that this car was advertised at.
60 % of 72KWH (AWD Limited battery capacity) battery is 43.2 KWH. For 43.2 kwhX2.5 Miles/KWH=108 miles....i have to charge everyday for my work commute.
How crazy is that?. Here in North east weather is pretty below 30 for at least 3 -4 months.
Just to add my own numbers to the mix:
AWD XLE purchased this May
USA, (Northern) California
Highly urban area with a lot of traffic
On a long distance highway trip I did 163 mi in 80% battery, going at around 70-75 mph using cruise control, which based on my best estimate was about 3.1 mi/KWh. That same trip I charged from 18% to 81% in 61 minutes at a 100 KW EVgo charger. To note I started at like 98%, so regenerative braking was not a thing for the first chunk of the trip.
On commutes, which are 70/30 highway to city, I'm getting around 3.5 mi/KWh at around 45-55 mph with lots of speed variation and regen on.
On short hop "grocery" trips I'm getting up to 4 mi/KWh, but I am granny driving on those. More accurate numbers are 3.5-3.7 mi/KWh for surface street regular driving.
My worst case was 2.7 mi/KWh at 75-85 mph highway. The efficiency really drops with speed, presumably due to drag.
I'm probably in the best case climate for this car, and my highway is basically slightly faster "city" driving due to congestion. So yeah if your area sucks this car does reasonably well.
AWD XLE purchased this May
USA, (Northern) California
Highly urban area with a lot of traffic
On a long distance highway trip I did 163 mi in 80% battery, going at around 70-75 mph using cruise control, which based on my best estimate was about 3.1 mi/KWh. That same trip I charged from 18% to 81% in 61 minutes at a 100 KW EVgo charger. To note I started at like 98%, so regenerative braking was not a thing for the first chunk of the trip.
On commutes, which are 70/30 highway to city, I'm getting around 3.5 mi/KWh at around 45-55 mph with lots of speed variation and regen on.
On short hop "grocery" trips I'm getting up to 4 mi/KWh, but I am granny driving on those. More accurate numbers are 3.5-3.7 mi/KWh for surface street regular driving.
My worst case was 2.7 mi/KWh at 75-85 mph highway. The efficiency really drops with speed, presumably due to drag.
I'm probably in the best case climate for this car, and my highway is basically slightly faster "city" driving due to congestion. So yeah if your area sucks this car does reasonably well.
Not bad. Is the bz4X your first EV or have you owned others before (or still do)?Just to add my own numbers to the mix:
AWD XLE purchased this May
USA, (Northern) California
Highly urban area with a lot of traffic
On a long distance highway trip I did 163 mi in 80% battery, going at around 70-75 mph using cruise control, which based on my best estimate was about 3.1 mi/KWh. That same trip I charged from 18% to 81% in 61 minutes at a 100 KW EVgo charger. To note I started at like 98%, so regenerative braking was not a thing for the first chunk of the trip.
On commutes, which are 70/30 highway to city, I'm getting around 3.5 mi/KWh at around 45-55 mph with lots of speed variation and regen on.
On short hop "grocery" trips I'm getting up to 4 mi/KWh, but I am granny driving on those. More accurate numbers are 3.5-3.7 mi/KWh for surface street regular driving.
My worst case was 2.7 mi/KWh at 75-85 mph highway. The efficiency really drops with speed, presumably due to drag.
I'm probably in the best case climate for this car, and my highway is basically slightly faster "city" driving due to congestion. So yeah if your area sucks this car does reasonably well.
First EV. I mostly got it cuz the price was good (was able to negotiate about 5k$ down and 4.75% interest over 60 mo, which saved another 3k$ compared to the regular rates). Came out significantly cheaper than the Mach-E and Ariya, and kinda just had all the stuff I wanted.Not bad. Is the bz4X your first EV or have you owned others before (or still do)?
We have a ICE Outback for long distance trips so the shorter range wasn't a big concern. I do kinda have the "well if the bz4X does well here, imagine what the Ariya/Mach-E coulda done", but for the price I'm overall very happy with it.
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