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I still am... since June 6th
If you aren't stuck on a specific location or dealership... I keep getting phone calls now from dealerships, that i didn't think kept my name and number, offering me AT MSRP now... previously small to huge mark-ups! I just got a message today on one on the ground and one on the way ... Sales rep getting me info tomorrow morning and I'll share here.
 

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I'm guessing that Osiris11 probably has a binding contract on his June 6th order, which means he can't switch dealers or else he'll lose out on the tax credit (and he may also lose his deposit, too).

Has your dealer given you any information as to where exactly your vehicle is located? Is it still at the port?
 

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I'm guessing that Osiris11 probably has a binding contract on his June 6th order, which means he can't switch dealers or else he'll lose out on the tax credit (and he may also lose his deposit, too).

Has your dealer given you any information as to where exactly your vehicle is located? Is it still at the port?

The tax credit doesn't matter now! If you didn't take ownership (actual delivery by 12/31/22) according to the guidance given by the IRS on 12/30, that credit is GONE!.... So, if your dealership lets you out of your Binding Agreement (like my previous deal did), then shop around! :).
 

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The tax credit doesn't matter now! If you didn't take ownership (actual delivery by 12/31/22) according to the guidance given by the IRS on 12/30, that credit is GONE!.... So, if your dealership lets you out of your Binding Agreement (like my previous deal did), then shop around! :).
I'm not sure that the credit is necessarily gone—just that it won't apply to one's 2022 tax return. It's all very nebulous.
 

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I'm not sure that the credit is necessarily gone—just that it won't apply to one's 2022 tax return. It's all very nebulous.
I’m not sure if you work for the IRS or treasury department or have some other insider info… but this has been a lengthy deiscussion on many forums…

the killer to the deal was the ICA and then thethe recent advice by both the IRS and Treasury department thatone item it states is that it must be assembled in the USA, then future advice would come on the sourcing of the batteries, by March.

since the car was produced in Japan and wasn’t taken delivery by 12/31 then it’s no longer qualifies…

the only loophole I found was getting it on a Lease, or Busienss purchase… in fact Mr. Machen ( from West Virginia) was very vocal about this recently and told the IRS this would defeat the purpose of the IRA bill.

anyway, good luck to anyone thinking they’ll get something out of this after 1/1/23.
 

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I'm guessing that Osiris11 probably has a binding contract on his June 6th order, which means he can't switch dealers or else he'll lose out on the tax credit (and he may also lose his deposit, too).

Has your dealer given you any information as to where exactly your vehicle is located? Is it still at the port?
i get the feeling that the dealer does not know when it will be delivered or if it is even built yet. Seems like they get bz4x’s in every two weeks. If it meets when I want, I can buy it. It doesn’t appear to me that a pending order means anything. Yes I have a binding agreement.
 

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i get the feeling that the dealer does not know when it will be delivered or if it is even built yet. Seems like they get bz4x’s in every two weeks. If it meets when I want, I can buy it. It doesn’t appear to me that a pending order means anything. Yes I have a binding agreement.
Interesting. So you have a binding agreement to purchase a car from a particular dealer when one comes in that meets certain specifications—is that correct? As opposed to a binding agreement to purchase a particular vehicle with a particular VIN for a car which then got held at the port for recall repairs, I presume.

Tricky situation, and it doesn't sound like your dealer is being much help. That's a real bummer.
 

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Interesting. So you have a binding agreement to purchase a car from a particular dealer when one comes in that meets certain specifications—is that correct? As opposed to a binding agreement to purchase a particular vehicle with a particular VIN for a car which then got held at the port for recall repairs, I presume.

Tricky situation, and it doesn't sound like your dealer is being much help. That's a real bummer.
You got it. Toyota keeps shipping fully loaded ones with AWD. I never got a real vin number either.
 
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