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Finally!!! Details from Toyota Japan and looks like they discovered airbag problem too:

トヨタ リコール等情報 | 2022年 | bZ4Xのリコール

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Corrections (translated):

Details of improvement

(1)All vehicles will be inspected for the installation status of the straps for assisting the deployment of the curtain shield airbags, and any inappropriate items will be corrected.

(2)All vehicles, disc wheels will be replaced with non-defective products, and hub bolts will be replaced with countermeasure products.

It will also be replaced with an instruction manual that contains notes on handling hub bolts.
 

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Important note: Improved/refurbished vehicles will have yellow paint applied to the left side of the chassis number stamping position.

Translation of the documents:

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This article explains the bolt issue.




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Official USA press release…. Toyota provides update on safety recall involving 2023 model year bZ4X vehicles - Toyota USA Newsroom

As my previous estimated fix date is on par with what they say… probably mid-November before we see them.
It’s interesting that they state they are replacing wheels. I’ve read translated (not by Google translate - but Japanese website) stated bolts and discs. I assumed discs to be hubs. That would make more sense than wheels in this case.

Edit: translation states disc wheels and mentions hubs elsewhere so I assume disc wheels means wheels and not hubs.
 

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It’s interesting that they state they are replacing wheels. I’ve read translated (not by Google translate - but Japanese website) stated bolts and discs. I assumed discs to be hubs. That would make more sense than wheels in this case.
Yes, I dont know what is improved wheels means. We will see soon.
 

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Huge news! Finally production can start again!


TOKYO — Toyota Motor Corp said it would restart production of its first electric vehicle, the bZ4X, on Thursday after fixing potential safety problems that had halted sales of the new battery-powered model for more than three months, and even prompted buybacks.

Japan's largest automaker, a laggard in the EV market, recalled 2,700 bZ4Xs globally in June after discovering that there was a risk the car's wheels could come loose.

Subaru Corp, a fifth owned by Toyota, also had to recall units of the related Solterra model that it jointly developed with Toyota.

A recall notice submitted to Japan's transport ministry by Toyota in June said that sharp turns and sudden braking could cause a hub bolt to loosen, raising the risk of a wheel coming off the vehicle.

The automaker on Thursday said in a filing to the ministry that it would make sure hub bolts were replaced and properly tightened in new versions of the bZ4X.

In addition, Toyota said it had identified and fixed a potential problem with airbags in the car. Some airbags had been improperly installed at the factory and were at risk to fail or cause injury because of the placement of a strap inside the airbag assembly.

Toyota had not previously disclosed that problem.

Masahiko Maeda, Toyota's chief technology officer, told a briefing the automaker only became aware of the airbag issue in the last month or two.

"We apologize again for the concern, anxiety, and inconvenience we have caused to our customers, our dealers and our stakeholders," Maeda said.

He declined to comment on how much the recall had cost.

Toyota has faced criticism from environmental groups and investors who want the company to expand faster into battery EVs. Toyota has pushed back, saying it needs to offer car choices to suit different markets and customers.

Hybrids such as the Prius remain far more popular in Toyota's home market. Pure battery-electric vehicles accounted for just 1% of the passenger cars sold in Japan last year, according to industry data.

The bZ4X is available for lease only in Japan — a service which will resume on Oct. 26, Maeda said. He did not specify when U.S. sales would recommence.

Only 232 units of crossover, pitched as Toyota's answer to Tesla's Model Y and the Volkswagen's ID.4, have been sold this year in the United States.

Last year, the Japanese automaker committed about $30 billion to develop battery electric vehicles. It expects the company's annual sales of such cars to reach only 3.5 million vehicles by the end of the decade, about one-third of current annual sales of its gasoline-powered cars.

(Reporting by Satoshi Sugiyama and Maki Shiraki; Editing by Kevin Krolicki and Edwina Gibbs)
 

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Yes, I dont know what is improved wheels means. We will see soon.
Extract from the USA statement says "recall involving "CERTAIN" 2023 model year bZ4X vehicles in the U.S. Approximately 260 vehicles are involved in this recall." Does that implies some versions are OK? I tried to put my VIN in but was rejected as not found but I am in the UK. Anyway, what does CERTAIN mean?
 

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Extract from the USA statement says "recall involving "CERTAIN" 2023 model year bZ4X vehicles in the U.S. Approximately 260 vehicles are involved in this recall." Does that implies some versions are OK? I tried to put my VIN in but was rejected as not found but I am in the UK. Anyway, what does CERTAIN mean?
No, all vehicles effected. Only 260 made it to customers to recall. Rest were QC hold and stop sale. Mine is in QC hold mode until released.
 

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Yes, I dont know what is improved wheels means. We will see soon.

Seems like US only to get new wheels. All get new hub bolts with washers. This could explain why Toyota GB has stated that customers who ordered before stop sale would be contacted SOON to get a delivery date of their BZ. It’s a quicker fix if there is no requirement for new wheels on top of new bolts.
 

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Seems like US only to get new wheels. All get new hub bolts with washers. This could explain why Toyota GB has stated that customers who ordered before stop sale would be contacted SOON to get a delivery date of their BZ. It’s a quicker fix if there is no requirement for new wheels on top of new bolts.
Can you provide the actual statement from Toyota GB that confirms the fix is different? Two things, I am in the UK and pre-ordered in March, my direct Toyota contact has not stated I will get my car quickly. 2) Looking at images of US cars they look the same wheels as in the UK.
 

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Can you provide the actual statement from Toyota GB that confirms the fix is different? Two things, I am in the UK and pre-ordered in March, my direct Toyota contact has not stated I will get my car quickly. 2) Looking at images of US cars they look the same wheels as in the UK.
I cannot. I’m going by the Motortrend article stating US wheels are different. Motortrend is a pretty good source and I doubt they made it up but I could be wrong. The Japanese document translated doesn’t show rims as a replacement point. However, Toyota USA has indicated the wheels will be replaced.

I have no idea how this is going to shake out lol.
 

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Can you provide the actual statement from Toyota GB that confirms the fix is different? Two things, I am in the UK and pre-ordered in March, my direct Toyota contact has not stated I will get my car quickly. 2) Looking at images of US cars they look the same wheels as in the UK.
The MotorTrend article seems correct. UK only gets new bolts / washers and not new wheels (rims):

TSB's are Live on the portal as of 07/10/2022

22SMD-064
Hub Bolts Replacements on Toyota bZ4X

22SMD-091
Front Curtain Shield Airbag Strap Inspection (on Both Sides)
 

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It was mentioned a few weeks ago that maybe there was disagreement between regulators. I wonder if the US regulator demanded changed wheels.
I actually just told my boss the same exact thing. I suspect that the US pushed it one more step to change the rims. I also suspect all rims will be the same going forward. New ones for US an old or new ones for the rest of the world. I also suspect that the rims taken from current US cars will be placed into service for the rest of the world and not scrapped. Just guesses on my part though.
 
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