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I installed one last year for our RAV4 Prime. I upsized for the future which I hope is before October 1st. Also installed it because the 30% tax credit on home chargers was expiring at the end of 2021 (not sure if it's been renewed or being renewed in the new energy bill - was in the House version but don't think its in the new Senate version).

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I installed one last year for our RAV4 Prime. I upsized for the future which I hope is before October 1st. Also installed it because the 30% tax credit on home chargers was expiring at the end of 2021 (not sure if it's been renewed or being renewed in the new energy bill - was in the House version but don't think its in the new Senate version).

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I got no tax credit for mine. As far as I can tell, there is no more tax credit.
 

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I got no tax credit for mine. As far as I can tell, there is no more tax credit.
Sadly, yeah. It expired December 31st, 2021. The House version of the new bill has it in it but from what I can see, not the Senate. With that said, if they can squeeze it in there, might be a chance it could be retro back to Jan 1, 2022 and you would get 30%.
 

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Sadly, yeah. It expired December 31st, 2021. The House version of the new bill has it in it but from what I can see, not the Senate. With that said, if they can squeeze it in there, might be a chance it could be retro back to Jan 1, 2022 and you would get 30%.
I'm a techie and not a tax person, but is this form any indication of receiving some sort of reimbursement for installing a Level2 charger at home?

Alternative Fuel Vehicle Refueling Property Credit: IRS form 8911
 

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From the form instructions…


Purpose of Form
Use Form 8911 to figure your credit for alternative fuel vehicle refueling property you placed in service during your tax year. The credit attributable to depreciable property (refueling property used for business or investment purposes) is treated as a general business credit. Any credit not attributable to depreciable property is treated as a personal credit.”

This appears to apply to expenses for creating a public charging installation, not a private/personal expense
 

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From the form instructions…


Purpose of Form
Use Form 8911 to figure your credit for alternative fuel vehicle refueling property you placed in service during your tax year. The credit attributable to depreciable property (refueling property used for business or investment purposes) is treated as a general business credit. Any credit not attributable to depreciable property is treated as a personal credit.”

This appears to apply to expenses for creating a public charging installation, not a private/personal expense
Thanks for that info.
 

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Asking... did any of you get your BZ4X EV? My husband & I ordered one in NY which is 6.5 hrs away from where we live. Put money down on the BZ4X Limited which had everything we hoped to get. We signed a sales agreement back in early Sept to qualify for the 2022 7500$ tax rebate. still do not have the car. We were told that Toyota has released them for the end of November so that we can pick up... STILL haven't heard yet... then I am told 100% we will have it before the end of the year.

Now here is my issue... we watch a LOT of reviews on YouTube... tonight watched a review by the "Electric Viking" out of Australia. He said there is a review group in Norway that tested the BZ4X multiple times and is calling out Toyota on the range. That their tests show that it is performing at 40% less in range than what was put out there. In their tests, they did not use inside battery drainers... like turning on the heat, AC. etc. So NOW we are freaked out... The dealership where we can get BZ4X is in NY about 6.5 hrs away from our home. They raised the price $5,000 over MSRP which we expected would happen.... and the Limited trim with extras we got inlacing tax is running us a little over $57,000.

MY Q TO ALL OF YOU.... IS IT WORK GETTING AN EV BY Toyota? first there was a problem with the wheels..... and now the battery isn't up to par... the range is much less.... not sure if it is worth it and I am a lifelong Toyota fan. Anyone out there that DOES have the BZ4X that can speak to the range of the battery between charges?

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Asking... did any of you get your BZ4X EV? My husband & I ordered one in NY which is 6.5 hrs away from where we live. Put money down on the BZ4X Limited which had everything we hoped to get. We signed a sales agreement back in early Sept to qualify for the 2022 7500$ tax rebate. still do not have the car. We were told that Toyota has released them for the end of November so that we can pick up... STILL haven't heard yet... then I am told 100% we will have it before the end of the year.

Now here is my issue... we watch a LOT of reviews on YouTube... tonight watched a review by the "Electric Viking" out of Australia. He said there is a review group in Norway that tested the BZ4X multiple times and is calling out Toyota on the range. That their tests show that it is performing at 40% less in range than what was put out there. In their tests, they did not use inside battery drainers... like turning on the heat, AC. etc. So NOW we are freaked out... The dealership where we can get BZ4X is in NY about 6.5 hrs away from our home. They raised the price $5,000 over MSRP which we expected would happen.... and the Limited trim with extras we got inlacing tax is running us a little over $57,000.

MY Q TO ALL OF YOU.... IS IT WORK GETTING AN EV BY Toyota? first there was a problem with the wheels..... and now the battery isn't up to par... the range is much less.... not sure if it is worth it and I am a lifelong Toyota fan. Anyone out there that DOES have the BZ4X that can speak to the range of the battery between charges?

Thank you

Cinderama
Hey @Cinderama2. It's possible that some variations and production date ranges of the bZ4X will drop in range as much as what we've seen from some publications.

How soon are you hoping to get an EV? It might be worth waiting for Toyota to publically acknowledge or address the range drop off.
 

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Asking... did any of you get your BZ4X EV? My husband & I ordered one in NY which is 6.5 hrs away from where we live. Put money down on the BZ4X Limited which had everything we hoped to get. We signed a sales agreement back in early Sept to qualify for the 2022 7500$ tax rebate. still do not have the car. We were told that Toyota has released them for the end of November so that we can pick up... STILL haven't heard yet... then I am told 100% we will have it before the end of the year.

Now here is my issue... we watch a LOT of reviews on YouTube... tonight watched a review by the "Electric Viking" out of Australia. He said there is a review group in Norway that tested the BZ4X multiple times and is calling out Toyota on the range. That their tests show that it is performing at 40% less in range than what was put out there. In their tests, they did not use inside battery drainers... like turning on the heat, AC. etc. So NOW we are freaked out... The dealership where we can get BZ4X is in NY about 6.5 hrs away from our home. They raised the price $5,000 over MSRP which we expected would happen.... and the Limited trim with extras we got inlacing tax is running us a little over $57,000.

MY Q TO ALL OF YOU.... IS IT WORK GETTING AN EV BY Toyota? first there was a problem with the wheels..... and now the battery isn't up to par... the range is much less.... not sure if it is worth it and I am a lifelong Toyota fan. Anyone out there that DOES have the BZ4X that can speak to the range of the battery between charges?

Thank you

Cinderama
I am in the UK and have been recording range on my car for two weeks. It is winter here and ambient temperature is about 8 - 10deg C. On motorways (your highways) I am achieving >230 actual miles. On a demonstrator 18" wheels, test drive back in the summer I achieved the equivalent of 280 miles on a 12 mile urban drive. There are doubts about aspects of the Finland tests and secondly and most importantly I would advise never to watch or listen to Electric Viking.
 

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I am in the UK and have been recording range on my car for two weeks. It is winter here and ambient temperature is about 8 - 10deg C. On motorways (your highways) I am achieving >230 actual miles. On a demonstrator 18" wheels, test drive back in the summer I achieved the equivalent of 280 miles on a 12 mile urban drive. There are doubts about aspects of the Finland tests and secondly and most importantly I would advise never to watch or listen to Electric Viking.
Thank you so much for the honest share of range data!
 

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I am in the UK and have been recording range on my car for two weeks. It is winter here and ambient temperature is about 8 - 10deg C. On motorways (your highways) I am achieving >230 actual miles. On a demonstrator 18" wheels, test drive back in the summer I achieved the equivalent of 280 miles on a 12 mile urban drive. There are doubts about aspects of the Finland tests and secondly and most importantly I would advise never to watch or listen to Electric Viking.
Could you please confirm if it is FWD or ADW ?
 

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Asking... did any of you get your BZ4X EV? My husband & I ordered one in NY which is 6.5 hrs away from where we live. Put money down on the BZ4X Limited which had everything we hoped to get. We signed a sales agreement back in early Sept to qualify for the 2022 7500$ tax rebate. still do not have the car. We were told that Toyota has released them for the end of November so that we can pick up... STILL haven't heard yet... then I am told 100% we will have it before the end of the year.

Now here is my issue... we watch a LOT of reviews on YouTube... tonight watched a review by the "Electric Viking" out of Australia. He said there is a review group in Norway that tested the BZ4X multiple times and is calling out Toyota on the range. That their tests show that it is performing at 40% less in range than what was put out there. In their tests, they did not use inside battery drainers... like turning on the heat, AC. etc. So NOW we are freaked out... The dealership where we can get BZ4X is in NY about 6.5 hrs away from our home. They raised the price $5,000 over MSRP which we expected would happen.... and the Limited trim with extras we got inlacing tax is running us a little over $57,000.

MY Q TO ALL OF YOU.... IS IT WORK GETTING AN EV BY Toyota? first there was a problem with the wheels..... and now the battery isn't up to par... the range is much less.... not sure if it is worth it and I am a lifelong Toyota fan. Anyone out there that DOES have the BZ4X that can speak to the range of the battery between charges?

Thank you

Cinderama

Sorry, just seeing this now, but had to chime in on the Tax Credit... if you didn't get a signed (binding agreement) by 8/16/22, then as of the current rules and regulations, you won't see any of that tax credit. (unless congress for some reason decides to vote on extending the date to at least the end of the year.... otherwise the moment Biden signed the new IRA, it killed the current tax credits on the day that he signed it.)

the BIG RED Disclaimer at the top explains some details as the currantly stand... By the way this Fuel Economy site now had the bZ4X listed! Finally!
 
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