oh nice, its not available here yet...so you ll be selling tbe car soon you mean
Is it still a smart decision to buy BZ4X?
I preordered my BZ4X car 2022 May. The main reason for preordering is the brand trust and reliability of the car. Due to the recent recalls and bad reviews all over the internet I am having second thought. Anyone else feeling the same? Posting some of my concerns here.. Please address if you have mor info.
- Recalls are tagged to this model and it may have impact on the resale value
- Toyota recent press release itself says that it is not fully into electric cars. So high chance for a half baked(proven from the recalls) car.
- I don't understand why this car was bashed by the reviewers. Biggest complaint all reviewers have is with the name!! What kind of BS is this? Is this because Toyota is not paying the reviewers or the car is not that good
- Anyone have official info about the FWD charging curve? I could only see the ADW curve in this forum.
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As soon as my Volvo XC40 shows up next month. The bZ is a great city or country road car. I suspect its drag coefficient is fairly high due to the front end. Hence, it is not a good road trip highway car if you'll be driving faster than 80km/h. Don't let anyone try to tell you it is a "horrible" BEV. That simply is not true. The XC40 will have much more technology and creature comforts, but costs $30K more too.
im with you, the car is nice just the range anxiety gets to me too i drive a lot, i might trade it for a lexus nx350 hybrid that i still have a deposit on
How much does it cost you? I intend to charge; I always have plenty of charges. It costs 1$/hour to charge, so I don't mind paying 8$ when needed to make it back comfortably. Also, the tech group has radiant heating and steering wheel heating, so I won't need to use full heating, but we'll see.if you not heat up the car and be careful with the heat while driving you should make it without charging but will be low...most i can do is 35 miles trips 4 times , usually after 3 times i charge
i think lev 3 chargers cost about same as gas, but thats for emergency only...most chargepoints or one that ill put in my house will be about same ss putting 2$ gas, about 23 cents for kwHow much does it cost you? I intend to charge; I always have plenty of charges. It costs 1$/hour to charge, so I don't mind paying 8$ when needed to make it back comfortably. Also, the tech group has radiant heating and steering wheel heating, so I won't need to use full heating, but we'll see.
It's a fantastic car that exceeds expectations. The dummies on youtube doing reviews don't understand the car. This hurts resell, not that I care. I hope Toyota can get their sales and maintenance teams to better expain the car to new drivers. Almost every youtube video I read is from guys laughing about the range and climate control relationship, which caused me trouble for the first week of ownership. It's a superb car.
Hopefully, the May update sets the record straight.It's a fantastic car that exceeds expectations. The dummies on youtube doing reviews don't understand the car. This hurts resell, not that I care. I hope Toyota can get their sales and maintenance teams to better expain the car to new drivers. Almost every youtube video I read is from guys laughing about the range and climate control relationship, which caused me trouble for the first week of ownership. It's a superb car.
It’s like a standard range Nissan Ariya.
But most of the testers are driving the long range Nissan Ariya and are raving about it.
Toybaru really screwed the pooch by not at least marketing it as “standard range” on the hopes that they would have a long range version.
But, basing E-TNGA on TNGA, they sealed their fate about how much room was available for the battery pack, thus limiting themselves to basically what they shipped, until energy density increases on the cells.
Had they not messed up the charging curves to badly, and sold the Panasonic 71.4kWh pack in all cars so they could get reasonable DCFC speeds, they might not have received so much bad press.
Luckily for Toyota and Subaru, the average consumer probably never hears about the range and charge speed issues (and cold weather-related causes) until after they have bought the car. For some, the sub-par range and charging speeds make the newly purchased car unusable for their purposes, and they are quite unhappy. For the ones who didn‘t do their research, I have no compassion for them.
Me, I am quite happy with my AWD Toybaru.
Some changes in charging rates and where ”zero miles” is will hopefully address at least some of the issues. No real increase in miles you would be able to travel, but at least they would be playing by the same unwritten rules about how to claim the furthest range you can.
But most of the testers are driving the long range Nissan Ariya and are raving about it.
Toybaru really screwed the pooch by not at least marketing it as “standard range” on the hopes that they would have a long range version.
But, basing E-TNGA on TNGA, they sealed their fate about how much room was available for the battery pack, thus limiting themselves to basically what they shipped, until energy density increases on the cells.
Had they not messed up the charging curves to badly, and sold the Panasonic 71.4kWh pack in all cars so they could get reasonable DCFC speeds, they might not have received so much bad press.
Luckily for Toyota and Subaru, the average consumer probably never hears about the range and charge speed issues (and cold weather-related causes) until after they have bought the car. For some, the sub-par range and charging speeds make the newly purchased car unusable for their purposes, and they are quite unhappy. For the ones who didn‘t do their research, I have no compassion for them.
Me, I am quite happy with my AWD Toybaru.
Some changes in charging rates and where ”zero miles” is will hopefully address at least some of the issues. No real increase in miles you would be able to travel, but at least they would be playing by the same unwritten rules about how to claim the furthest range you can.
You seem to know a little more than the average person. So I will ask you, is the CATL 72.8 kWh better than the PPES? I did my research, and I must say the cold really have me worried. I'm doing some kind of a leap of faith, I trust that winter performances will be better than what is said. For the rest, It's a Toyota and that's why I chose to go with that vehicle.It’s like a standard range Nissan Ariya.
But most of the testers are driving the long range Nissan Ariya and are raving about it.
Toybaru really screwed the pooch by not at least marketing it as “standard range” on the hopes that they would have a long range version.
But, basing E-TNGA on TNGA, they sealed their fate about how much room was available for the battery pack, thus limiting themselves to basically what they shipped, until energy density increases on the cells.
Had they not messed up the charging curves to badly, and sold the Panasonic 71.4kWh pack in all cars so they could get reasonable DCFC speeds, they might not have received so much bad press.
Luckily for Toyota and Subaru, the average consumer probably never hears about the range and charge speed issues (and cold weather-related causes) until after they have bought the car. For some, the sub-par range and charging speeds make the newly purchased car unusable for their purposes, and they are quite unhappy. For the ones who didn‘t do their research, I have no compassion for them.
Me, I am quite happy with my AWD Toybaru.
Some changes in charging rates and where ”zero miles” is will hopefully address at least some of the issues. No real increase in miles you would be able to travel, but at least they would be playing by the same unwritten rules about how to claim the furthest range you can.
completIt's a fantastic car that exceeds expectations. The dummies on youtube doing reviews don't understand the car. This hurts resell, not that I care. I hope Toyota can get their sales and maintenance teams to better expain the car to new drivers. Almost every youtube video I read is from guys laughing about the range and climate control relationship, which caused me trouble for the first week of ownership. It's a superb car.
about the cold, it wasnt that bad...battery goes down about 20 miles when you wake up and while warming up would go down a lot but not during driving, just leave extra 50 miles as emergencyYou seem to know a little more than the average person. So I will ask you, is the CATL 72.8 kWh better than the PPES? I did my research, and I must say the cold really have me worried. I'm doing some kind of a leap of faith, I trust that winter performances will be better than what is said. For the rest, It's a Toyota and that's why I chose to go with that vehicle.
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