It’s pretty obtuse.

 

In the iPad app.

 

In the iPhone app:

 

In the web browser-based app as rendered in Safari:

 

Yeah, I figured part of the issue out. You cannot find a saved route unless you tell it to start a new route. It's just not at all intuitive. Another thing I noticed. Where you can set your car up with the specs, I've now included the CCS charging ability. So rather than showing my stops at CCS preferred it showed me needing 3 somewhat short stops but all at Tesla stations. Maybe there is something in preferences? I'd like it to point out "native" chargers primarily.

 

The first step (maybe you're already doing this) is to make sure that you're doing most of your setup and planning in a web browser on a computer. The interface is much better than on a small phone screen.

There are tons of customization settings. So many that I try not to mess with them unless absolutely necessary. And if you slide all the way to the bottom of that screen, you'll find the "Reset Settings" option, which you might want to use after playing around for a while.

For your specific issue, look for Avoid and Prefer in Settings. After you search for a charging network, you can block or lower/raise your preference for that network. So, search for Tesla and then either block or click the thumb down. If there is a network or two that you really like, do the single or double thumbs up. But just remember that once you've made those changes, ABRP will no longer be giving you what it believes is the best route.

I sometimes play with Reference Speed. Mine is usually about 107% from my driving history. If I can barely make a route, I'll sometimes drop that back to 100% to see how much wiggle room I would have if I drove the speed limit. Destination Arrival SoC and Charger Arrival SoC are two others that newbies might want to change from the default 10%.

When I'm building a trip, the first thing that I do is set departure from Home instead of My Position, then set Departure SoC to 100% and set the date/time of my departure.

You may already know this, but when you're building the trip, if you click on a charging station that is showing on the map, you can add it as a Waypoint and ABRP will have you charge there, if needed. Or, after adding it as a Waypoint, you can edit its settings and set Charging "till" and enter 80%, for example, if you want more than ABRP gives you. My final tip is to right-click the map to add either a Waypoint (somewhere where you might stop and either depart later or do some charging that ABRP doesn't know about) or a Guidpoint (a place that you want to drive through, to take a very specific route).

If you have more specifics about your planned route, someone might be able to give you more help.

 

Well I will throw this out there. I will be traveling from Rockford IL to Minneapolis (actually St Paul first). I'd like it to give me a balance of Tesla Superchargers and native CCS DCFC stations. I told ABRP I can use either but it seems to want to default to Tesla only. I am assuming warm weather climate control in use speeds 70-80 mph so about 2.8 MKwh consumption based on what I've seen doing highway runs to-from O'Hare and such. Seems 2.8 is verry conservative but better safe than sorry.
Anyway any tips on this would be helpful

 

It’s defaulting to Tesla because they have better scores and more stalls. It’s not complicated. If you don’t want Tesla chargers unless they’re the only option then set it to prefer non-Tesla chargers.

Settings > Chargers & Networks > Avoid and Prefer

 

Wow, I thought it was just me! I've been going in circles trying to figure this app out. Glad (but also frustrated) to see I'm not alone.

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Omg yes – I’m having the exact same problem right now. So frustrating!

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Just saw this – totally understand your frustration. I'm running into the same issues and it's been a headache.

 

I tried using it, but it just kept frustrating me as well. I could not figure out how to adjust simple things. I gave up trying.

 

I will look for that setting but could not find it. That will be a big help if I can locate the setting

 

Well all I can do is tell the app to either totally avoid a specific Tesla charger or prefer it. I see no setting(s) for "preferring" the app looks more readily for CCS vs Tesla. I don't want to totally "avoid" I'd like it to simply show me alternatives

 

Go to “All Settings” from the starting screen of the app. If you’re planning a route, cancel it. Then, go to Chargers and Networks then click “Avoid and prefer”

The (X) prohibits a network, and the thumbs down discourages it.

 

My problem with their preferred network is that it isn’t fine-grained enough. I want: avoid, two thumbs down, one thumb down, neutral, thumbs up, two thumbs up. Or, 0-5 stars.

 

Here is a screenshot of what I see when I do what you're recommending

 

Here is a screenshot of what I see when I do what you're recommending

Type "tesla" in the search box and you'll get the options.

 

Interestingly, when I plan Rockford to MSP with a bZ4X (AWD), it has me stopping at 3 EVgo stations. Of course, I haven't told ABRP that I have an NACS adapter, since the Tesla network hasn't officially opened to Toyota yet. As far as I know, there is only one Supercharger location in Wisconsin that's open to non-NACS partners and it's not on your route. I know that some bZs have been able to charge at non-Magic Dock locations, but I wouldn't trust that to work on a trip.

Are you sure you have your vehicle set up correctly? Even if I add the NACS adapter to the bZ4X that I have configured, ABRP still has me stopping at only the EVgo stations.

As an aside, many people would prefer to stop at a Supercharger location with 8-12 or more stations than the standard EVgo with only 4.

 

Are you sure you have your vehicle set up correctly? Even if I add the NACS adapter to the bZ4X that I have configured, ABRP still has me stopping at only the EVgo stations.

I suspect ABRP won’t show non-approved vehicles (with or without adapter) as compatible with Tesla chargers until Tesla lists them as approved.

 

OK so this time I tried yet again. I tried telling the app to avoid NACS but it still has me stopping at Lake Delton NACS otherwise everything else was CCS. Apparently you can't just eliminate the preference you have to 'clear" the entire trip and start a whole new plan. The app doesn't allow for "running" changes. It's times like this that while I truly love the BZ4x I am disappointed when I see how well Elon has integrated the vehicles with the infrastructure and together with mapping integrated right into the car where the superiority of that system and tech really shows
ABRP has capabilities but it certainly is NOT ready for prime time. I'm no dummy in the tech dept and ABRP still confounds, confuses and frustrates the hell outta me.
I also noted that when it was defaulting to only NACS stations it was only showing ones that were 250Kw capable or above. When I checked on the Tesla app for compatibility to using the adapter they were all in sync with one another. So at least it seems ABRP was leading me to at least chargers capable of working with the adapter setup.
I'd also imagine (hope) that DCFC stations tend to group close by. IOW if I stopped at a Tesla station and could not get it to charge, I'd hope there were others of the CCS variety nearby

 

Originally developed by a Swedish developer and sold to Rivian in 2023. it Helps to think like a Swede if you want to navigate this app without throw your device across the room. Kinda like switching from an Apple ecosystem to an Android ecosystem.

 

Well, I suppose they make it that way so you buy a subscription. My challenges to get the address into the car screen from my phone or from another app. I’m sure you’re way ahead of me on terms of managing the technology so don’t feel too bad. I like your efforts to bring information to this forum.. MN BZ4x driver

 

I did buy the subscription! It will be put more to the test tomorrow. However I did discover in Android Auto if you're having Google Maps guiding you somewhere and simply say "Hey Google show me DC fast charger on my route" it will populate with them. I've not tried it with NACS being put into the mix. Maybe I will play with it a little today as well. Only real issue is GM does not calculate car capability and when to charge the battery

 

Just to clarify, the Tesla V2 chargers won't work with ANY adapters on non Tesla vehicles. The V2 chargers are the less than 250kw units. The adapters will work on V3 and V4 Tesla chargers.

 

This month marks 10 years since August 2015 when I bought my first EV (A 2014 Mercedes B250e). Back then, people were saying things like "give it 10 years, you'll be able to take a road trip with an EV just as easily as a gasoline vehicle.

10 years later (give or take) a big change has happened: The holy grail of being able to charge at Tesla is open to pretty much every EV that accepts a "fast" charge.

While I'm sure many EV enthusiasts like ourselves think people just need a few quick pointers and 5 minutes of planning to make road tripping as easy and carefree. What's disappointing is that a decade later, we are having the same conversations like this one.

I now completely understand my wife's point of view when it comes to venturing even 100 miles away from the safety of our 30 amp plug.

In August 2035, it will be interesting to read threads like this one and see if road tripping an EV will be as easy people back in 2015 thought it become today. My take: We'll still be having these conversations.

 

In August 2035, it will be interesting to read threads like this one and see if road tripping an EV will be as easy people back in 2015 thought it become today. My take: We'll still be having these conversations.

I think new EV owners will still be having these conversations.

 

It can happen...

 

Well this trip to the Twin Cities was really quite painless (other than one glitch I did to ABRP and then ABRP not being able to properly calculate my actual MKWh even though I did my best to tell it my consumption. Bottom line the car only required 2 stops on way home.. Black River Falls on a Tesla charger and Sun Prairie on the Rivian Adventure Network at Woodman's Market. Super Easy there!

 

So some highlights. The only charger that was troublesome and a bit disappointing to use was an EVGo. The one in Mauston at the Flying J. It also was not a part of the free charging Toyota promised at EVGo. And it was pretty expensive. But, the Rivian Adventure network could not have been easier. Pull up, add the credit card just like a gas pump, plug it in and very fast effortless charging. That thing pumped in 92Kwh speed. Even the Tesla chargers were not that speedy though other than the physical challenge of trying to get the front end close enough, they too were perfectly easy. Pull up the app, click on your spot, "charge here" plug in, and within 30 seconds the car and device did their hand shake and off it went. Though there I was seeing 78Kwh speed. But, honestly by the time we used a rest room (we're old LOL) the car was ready to go.
Honestly a painless, easy trip. As far as "cost"? At fast chargers I think I spent total about $30 each way. Honestly? compared to my past 21 MPG vehicle I don't think it was any more "spendy" to run the BEV. I don't have a reference point on the same trip with my RAV4 because I've never done it. Only in the Highlander or when I was working up there I had my little Saturn SL2 which avgd pretty close to 40 MPG. So that little beast could get me from here to Woodbury with no fill stops. But, also back then I could do the ride without a pee stop. Now age and "other biological issues" won't let me do the drive without a couple pee stops.

 

Perhaps. Quite honestly I am pretty amazed at how expansive the network has become in WI alone just since I got my car. What would REALLY be great is if those signs at each exit also included charging network stops available like they do fuel stations. Then we would not even need an app. Simply drive, and as the indicator gets to the point of needing a top off, simply watch the exit signs for what is available at each exit.

 

My son is taking his standard range Mach e to Charlotte, NC soon. I tried to use ABRP to plan it out for him, but I got so frustrated using it that I just stopped. I can't figure out that interface at all.

 

Yeah, it's REALLY difficult. However, I've started getting a bit more "acclimated" to it. And now as it's learning my car with that BT interface it's actually getting much more predictive. In a few weeks I'm going to be taking my car downstate IL about 300 miles round trip. I'll see how it acts on that. Plus may be doing another trip to the Twin Cities to get my old guitar outta the "hospital".

 

I'm anticipating a stop at my destination. ABRP pointed me to a Rivian Adventure network charger there. Which should be plenty enough zip me back up I-39 Unless bad weather enters the mix I think it will work well