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Whilst tumbling down the internet rabbit hole, I found this forum! Neat!

I'm Alex, I'm from the Niagara Region in Ontario, Canada. I've been an active blabbermouth / purveyor-of-logical-thoughts on the Ioniq Forum for the past 4 years as an Ioniq owner. However, as a devoted and loyal Toyota owner, I've been waiting patiently for Toyota to enter the inevitable market of pure EVs. I discovered the BZ4X a couple of months ago, and will hopefully be able to part ways with my Ioniq in favour of re-establishing a full Toyota driveway lol

Looking forward to the discussions down the road with everyone!
 

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Whilst tumbling down the internet rabbit hole, I found this forum! Neat!

I'm Alex, I'm from the Niagara Region in Ontario, Canada. I've been an active blabbermouth / purveyor-of-logical-thoughts on the Ioniq Forum for the past 4 years as an Ioniq owner. However, as a devoted and loyal Toyota owner, I've been waiting patiently for Toyota to enter the inevitable market of pure EVs. I discovered the BZ4X a couple of months ago, and will hopefully be able to part ways with my Ioniq in favour of re-establishing a full Toyota driveway lol

Looking forward to the discussions down the road with everyone!
Welcome to the forum @mralex1986! What has you the most interested about the bZ4X compared to your Ioniq? Have you enjoyed your Ioniq since you've had it?
 

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Welcome to the forum @mralex1986! What has you the most interested about the bZ4X compared to your Ioniq? Have you enjoyed your Ioniq since you've had it?
Thank you! :)

The Ioniq has honestly been a fantastic car. My first one had over 82,000km on it before mother nature became its enemy, it was written off and I'm on my second Ioniq now with just over 45,000km on it.

After 80,000km, the battery still had 100% of its design capacity (all cells still charged to 4.00V, tested by the dealership), which I think is truly amazing. I had a couple of Hyundai-esq issues with the first one that required warranty work, but everything got fixed up at the end of the day. I've had no issues with the current one.

Brand loyalty drives me towards Toyota no matter what, which is how I discovered the BZ4X. It gets bonus points for the esthetics. I'll admit that I know probably less about the BZ4X compared to others who have been following it through its development, but I'm constantly combing the internet, checking regularly for updates as I'd like to know more about the production-ready model when more information comes out (as I'm sure we all do).
 

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Thank you! :)

The Ioniq has honestly been a fantastic car. My first one had over 82,000km on it before mother nature became its enemy, it was written off and I'm on my second Ioniq now with just over 45,000km on it.

After 80,000km, the battery still had 100% of its design capacity (all cells still charged to 4.00V, tested by the dealership), which I think is truly amazing. I had a couple of Hyundai-esq issues with the first one that required warranty work, but everything got fixed up at the end of the day. I've had no issues with the current one.

Brand loyalty drives me towards Toyota no matter what, which is how I discovered the BZ4X. It gets bonus points for the esthetics. I'll admit that I know probably less about the BZ4X compared to others who have been following it through its development, but I'm constantly combing the internet, checking regularly for updates as I'd like to know more about the production-ready model when more information comes out (as I'm sure we all do).
Sorry to hear about the first Ioniq but glad to hear it hasn't caused you major headaches overall. In all honesty you haven't missed much haha. we don't know that much about the BZ yet aside from estimates and what it looks like.

Are there any specific specs or features you want Toyota to put in the BZ?
 

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Sorry to hear about the first Ioniq but glad to hear it hasn't caused you major headaches overall. In all honesty you haven't missed much haha. we don't know that much about the BZ yet aside from estimates and what it looks like.

Are there any specific specs or features you want Toyota to put in the BZ?
No headaches at all. Insurance for the win :) Things happen, no big deal. Cars can be replaced.

It's no secret that Toyota focuses on the important things with their vehicles, but I think they could definitely invest in better technology... actually, invest might be an overstatement.... I think it just needs some refinement.

Since the RAV4 Hybrid is only a couple of months old for us, I find myself comparing it to the Ioniq often because there are things in the Ioniq that are just simply better. Specifically:

- The head unit. Just using CarPlay is a smoother experience, but the overall GUI on the Ioniq's head unit is clean, modern, seamless to use, and just looks great. The head unit in the RAV, while usable, seems like a slightly more updated version of what was in my 2014 Corolla, and that wasn't particularly good either.

- Speaker system. I paid extra for the Tech Package on my RAV4, specifically for the 11-speaker JBL system. The Infiniti system in the Ioniq, which comes standard on all models, is far more balanced and sounds much cleaner than the RAV. Let's put it this way: in the Ioniq, I leave the EQ flat and it sounds great all the time. In the RAV, I need to drop the midrange significantly, raise the treble a few notches, and raise the bass a small amount. Sometimes I find myself making on-the-fly adjustments too. In my own honest opinion, a good speaker system should sound best while the EQ is flat -- unless you have your own preferences of course, but flat should be as the artist intended, and the speaker system should deliver that.

- Driver assistance. I'd say the Ioniq and RAV function almost identically, except I cannot drive with the Lane Tracing option turned on with the RAV. I find myself fighting the steering input from the RAV so much that it just needs to be switched off. It never seems to be satisfied with where it is, and I end up correcting slightly left and right to stay centered when the RAV wants to go the other way. However, with the Ioniq, I never lose confidence on highways when it tries to keep the car center.

At the end of the day though, these are niceties, not necessities. What I really want at the end of the day is longevity and low total cost of ownership. When I buy a BZ4X, my intention is to run it in to the ground and see if they can maintain their reputation for well-maintained cars that can last for 20 years as Toyota is known for, just like I'm doing with my recent RAV purchase. Other than that, I want to see a real-world range at a minimum 400km and all-wheel drive. I don't care about having huge amounts of power output... the Ioniq has an 88kW motor and it drives quick enough to 130km/h thanks to the electric torque (even though I'm usually a 115km/h cruiser). And assuming I purchase a first year, first generation model, I just want the usual support that I know Toyota provides if there are any issues discovered post-release.
 
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