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Hello everybody, I will be getting a new bz4x, and I'm curious about the cold affecting the vehicle. As they say, is the horror we are reading about cold temperatures affecting the vehicle performance and battery?

Everybody from cold countries and northern US states is welcome to answer.





I appreciate any help you can provide.
 

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Hey @Alirio welcome to the forum! It varies but yes you should expect a range decrease in the cold compared to warmer days. Pre-conditioning your car is key for winter, like keeping it a garage to charge instead of outside and setting the temperature inside the car before leaving with the app. So you don't waste energy on the move with a cold car.


 

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Hello,

Thanks for the great answer; I, unfortunately, won't be putting my BZ4X in a garage. I know there"s a heat pump on the vehicle. Will it be used to preheat the battery during winter?
 

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Yes, but so far the consensus is that it has to be plugged in to AC charging to get the battery preheat, and it‘s possible if it’s cold enough and you are just using the L1 charger, that the heater will seriously reduce charging speed. There are more discussions of this on the Solterra Forum.
 

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Yes, but so far the consensus is that it has to be plugged in to AC charging to get the battery preheat, and it‘s possible if it’s cold enough and you are just using the L1 charger, that the heater will seriously reduce charging speed. There are more discussions of this on the Solterra Forum.
Thanks for the info.. I'll be having an L2 charger also just learned about the system update in May; encouraging stuff is on the way. It seems throttled a bit too much; we all know how conservative Toyota is.
 

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I have had mine for 2 weeks now and we had significant snowfall during that time. I have loved it so far. I do charge in my garage, but it seems to be consuming charge at an expected rate.
Great to hear it, and welcome to the forum! How did you find it performed in the snow compared to your last vehicle?

Also, share some pics!
 

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I live in a cold area, and in the depths of winter I was seeing the vehicle's average efficiency drop to as little as 1.5 mi/kWh—which theoretically equates to about a 90 mile range. Keeping the heater off entirely increases the range far more than it should, but on really cold days a heater is a necessity. On moderately cold days, heated seats + steering wheel (make sure you get this option if you buy the car) help me to keep the HVAC/heater off, thus increasing range a little bit.

The inability to effectively Level 3 charge the vehicle in even moderately cold weather is a major shortcoming which will likely be your biggest headache, as it exacerbates the range issue, and thus forces you to keep within a ~50-80 mile radius of home in the winter. I mostly L2 charge at home, but recently during a prolonged power outage (4 days), found the need to drive into town to use a DC fast charger. As usual, my charge speed averaged about 16 kW, and in an hour I'd added only enough energy for about 35 miles of range. I essentially broke even on the ~30 mile round-trip drive into town and returned home with roughly the same charge I'd left with. For comparison's sake, some electric vehicles can Level 2 charge at a faster rate, or add 200+ miles of range in half that amount of time with DC charging, even in cold weather.

Those issues aside, with AWD, the vehicle does handle really well on ice and in the snow (with appropriate tires), and I have been pleased with all aspects of its driving and handling characteristics in poor weather conditions and on poor roads (i.e., un-plowed snow, heavy mud).
 

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I live in a cold area, and in the depths of winter I was seeing the vehicle's average efficiency drop to as little as 1.5 mi/kWh—which theoretically equates to about a 90 mile range. Keeping the heater off entirely increases the range far more than it should, but on really cold days a heater is a necessity. On moderately cold days, heated seats + steering wheel (make sure you get this option if you buy the car) help me to keep the HVAC/heater off, thus increasing range a little bit.

The inability to effectively Level 3 charge the vehicle in even moderately cold weather is a major shortcoming which will likely be your biggest headache, as it exacerbates the range issue, and thus forces you to keep within a ~50-80 mile radius of home in the winter. I mostly L2 charge at home, but recently during a prolonged power outage (4 days), found the need to drive into town to use a DC fast charger. As usual, my charge speed averaged about 16 kW, and in an hour I'd added only enough energy for about 35 miles of range. I essentially broke even on the ~30 mile round-trip drive into town and returned home with roughly the same charge I'd left with. For comparison's sake, some electric vehicles can Level 2 charge at a faster rate, or add 200+ miles of range in half that amount of time with DC charging, even in cold weather.

Those issues aside, with AWD, the vehicle does handle really well on ice and in the snow (with appropriate tires), and I have been pleased with all aspects of its driving and handling characteristics in poor weather conditions and on poor roads (i.e., un-plowed snow, heavy mud).

Great info, thanks , maybe with the update you’ll see those number increase. I hope winter conditions won’t hinder too much the distance I need to go.
 
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