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I'm trying to link Toyota's delay to a special occasion like the US car show. If they wait to showcase the new crown and fixed bZ4X, it will be a major auto show in the USA. USA market is the most important for them.

So we have 14th September North American International Auto Show and 23th November San Francisco International Auto Show. These dates are important.
 

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I'm trying to link Toyota's delay to a special occasion like the US car show. If they wait to showcase the new crown and fixed bZ4X, it will be a major auto show in the USA. USA market is the most important for them.

So we have 14th September North American International Auto Show and 23th November San Francisco International Auto Show. These dates are important.
I'll be there on the 23th😁😁😁
 

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With the dearth of information coming from Toyota regarding the bZ4x/Solterra, wheel issues and manufacturing suspension, I’m not counting on anything…
Even if the timing works out, it's not exactly the message I would think Toyota would want to make.

Now introducing...the all-electric bZ4X. Yes, you saw it 5 months ago when we launched it in the U.S., but we're happy to announce that the wheels no longer fall off. Big round of applause for the bZ4X!
 

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Even if the timing works out, it's not exactly the message I would think Toyota would want to make.

Now introducing...the all-electric bZ4X. Yes, you saw it 5 months ago when we launched it in the U.S., but we're happy to announce that the wheels no longer fall off. Big round of applause for the bZ4X!

It may not be something like that... but surely they'd have it at the show.... they seem to showcase the same "models" every year (for instance, there's always a Prius, 4Runner, Highlander, Camry, etc. etc. at the show, regardless of any changes) Therefore, I would suspect to see it there, just maybe not highlighted like they did earlier this year (no big giant stand for it to sit on)..... Wonder if Subaru will do the same thing??

Since one of those seems to be this week into next... maybe someone will have some Video's up:

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It may not be something like that... but surely they'd have it at the show.... they seem to showcase the same "models" every year (for instance, there's always a Prius, 4Runner, Highlander, Camry, etc. etc. at the show, regardless of any changes) Therefore, I would suspect to see it there, just maybe not highlighted like they did earlier this year (no big giant stand for it to sit on)..... Wonder if Subaru will do the same thing??
Probable that they’ll have it there, if nothing else to re-emphasize that they have an EV offering. It is a dilemma, though.

Do you show it, make more people aware of it, and drive demand for it, only to disappoint people by telling them they can’t buy it? I guess that would have been a problem anyway given the low volume — even without a recall.

Or do you not bring focus to it so that in a few months (hopefully!), once the recall is behind them, it’s basically something ”new“ to show people? But then its absence may make it even more of a story for some (”Where’s Toyota’s EV?”).

Since Toyota went quiet because of the recall and didn’t get a chance to really launch it, I doubt most people even know about the bZ4X. We all do since, we’re all on a bZ forum, but the vast majority of the public probably don’t.
 

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Probable that they’ll have it there, if nothing else to re-emphasize that they have an EV offering. It is a dilemma, though.

Do you show it, make more people aware of it, and drive demand for it, only to disappoint people by telling them they can’t buy it? I guess that would have been a problem anyway given the low volume — even without a recall.

Or do you not bring focus to it so that in a few months (hopefully!), once the recall is behind them, it’s basically something ”new“ to show people? But then it’s absence may make it even more of a story for some (”Where’s Toyota’s EV?”).

Since Toyota went quiet because of the recall and didn’t get a chance to really launch it, I doubt most people even know about the bZ4X. We all do since, we’re all on a bZ forum, but the vast majority of the public probably don’t.
Scenario: Toyota will open orders for bz4x just before one of the big car show in USA :)
 

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Toyota issued a press release about the upcoming NAIAS -- spotlighting the 2023 Crown. Not surprisingly, no mention of the bZ4X. There is a reference to "electric offerings," but that typically is a wide net that includes their hybrid and PHEV line-up.

Ironically, "‘Toyota in America’ is the theme at this year’s show, honoring the auto manufacturer’s plants in Kentucky, Indiana, Texas, Mississippi and Alabama that help the country go places." Of course, it makes perfect sense to highlight the made-in-Japan Crown that's replacing the previously made-in-the-US Avalon.

It'll be interesting to hear if the bZ4X makes an appearance, even if it's just tucked away in the corner somewhere. My bet would be on not having one at the show. Why open Pandora's box having to explain why you can't buy one now and why no one knows when you can?

 

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I asked some folks who are attending the show and they confirmed that the bZ4X is NOT on display at NAIAS.

So take that for what it’s worth…there is a possibility that Toyota will have it literally rise from the ashes like a phoenix in a dramatic grand reveal that has yet to be seen, but I wouldn’t hold my breath, at least for NAIAS.
 

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I asked some folks who are attending the show and they confirmed that the bZ4X is NOT on display at NAIAS.

So take that for what it’s worth…there is a possibility that Toyota will have it literally rise from the ashes like a phoenix in a dramatic grand reveal that has yet to be seen, but I wouldn’t hold my breath, at least for NAIAS.
This is really shocking! What are you trying to do, Toyota?
 

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It appears that between the Solterrra/bZ4x and the Crown (both scheduled to be assembled on the same assembly line), the Crown has most favored status, and the Solterra/bZ4x is the “poor little red-headed step child” of Toyota’s vehicle production plans.
 

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This is really shocking! What are you trying to do, Toyota?
I think as mentioned somewhere here or somewhere else... and I also believe, that Toyota didn't want it at the show, because they aren't ready to release information about the fix and when it will be available for purchase! They just didn't want any negative press..... and having the Crown there takes the pressure off as well!

Just super annoying they don't just get the act together and release some information.
 

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I think as mentioned somewhere here or somewhere else... and I also believe, that Toyota didn't want it at the show, because they aren't ready to release information about the fix and when it will be available for purchase! They just didn't want any negative press..... and having the Crown there takes the pressure off as well!

Just super annoying they don't just get the act together and release some information.
Subaru will place it for sure... As they did here in the UK.
 
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