[rfrancis073]

I do wonder when things are going to be fixed. Given the likelihood that they knew about the issue in May, how long does it possibly take to work out what the fix is? It worries me that it's been likely over a month of them being aware now and still nothing.

My dealer seems to think mine is sitting in a lot somewhere and hasn't been allocated a VIN because they're waiting to remanufacture it for the recall. No idea how likely that is as I don't really know at what point in the process they allocate the final VIN.

While that may be possible, I don't think that's the case. My BZ was built on June 14th and assigned a final VIN. It shipped on the 21st. However, the plant production on that line stopped on June 17th and will be shutdown till about mid July. Since my BZ was 3 days before the shutdown, I doubt that they built them after that and put them on a lot incomplete (waiting for the fix) and not assigning the final VIN. Just my educated guess I suppose.

Good luck!

 

[kingrikk]

While that may be possible, I don't think that's the case. My BZ was built on June 14th and assigned a final VIN. It shipped on the 21st. However, the plant production on that line stopped on June 17th and will be shutdown till about mid July. Since my BZ was 3 days before the shutdown, I doubt that they built them after that and put them on a lot incomplete (waiting for the fix) and not assigning the final VIN. Just my educated guess I suppose.

Yeah, it seemed a bit weird. Mine was ordered on the 20th June and went to "Build in progress" a couple of days later and sat there. From what I read elsewhere, I don't know why it would have shown as entering the build process unless it actually had - making me think it must have been built before the shutdown and the dealer just assigned me a unit they'd already ordered and the tracking won't catch up until the car hits the UK hub.

If I inspect the data that comes back from Toyota's tracking webpage, it shows an estimated delivery of 19th August, and that potentially it was on a boat on 25th May. But it doesn't show as being on the boat yet - and that boat would have arrived in the UK by now. It initially said 7th September as estimated delivery but changed to an earlier date.

We have a different system to you in the US for tracking I think, but I assume it's not that far removed behind the scenes. All still built on the same line...

All in all, very confusing and my dealer is only somewhat clear about the situation. (I don't know how much of that is their knowledge and how much is customer management)

 

[Motch6]

I do wonder when things are going to be fixed. Given the likelihood that they knew about the issue in May, how long does it possibly take to work out what the fix is? It worries me that it's been likely over a month of them being aware now and still nothing.

My dealer seems to think mine is sitting in a lot somewhere and hasn't been allocated a VIN because they're waiting to remanufacture it for the recall. No idea how likely that is as I don't really know at what point in the process they allocate the final VIN.

Agreed, this should be faster than what they are saying

As for your VIN... they typically assign a temporary VIN while its in production... Although, once it has officially been Allocated, the Dealership then sees that it has and its issued a final VIN number. If you aren't seeing any of that yet, or your dealership isn't, that means it isn't even in production yet. (and that is due to the shut downs).

I was recently informed that the Allocations going to Hawaii had been cut in half and ended up delaying previous orders by two additional months. I hadn't even received a VIN number since it never went into production. (I since cancelled my order there).

 

[kingrikk]

Who knows. Going to be a mighty rush if they’re building it on 18th July and expect it to be delivered to me exactly a month later.

 

[Motch6]

Who knows. Going to be a mighty rush if they’re building it on 18th July and expect it to be delivered to me exactly a month later.

Ya, history shows that may be possible, although with the fact that the plant has been shut down again recently, it may be a few weeks longer

mine went into PRE-production on 3/24
Build on 4/14
Vessel Departed: 4/25
Vessel Arrived: 5/11


anyway, maybe that's a little helpful.

 

[Motch6]

this is the FIRST actual advertisement I have seen for the bZ4X... and I'm actually surprised to see it since they started the Recall a week ago and would expect any advertising until things were solid .... This is from San Luis Obispo Toyota in California..

 

[kingrikk]

It’s still a popular car. My dealer said they had a lot of interest even though people couldn’t test drive it.

Kirk Kreifels on YouTube had a revealing poll the other day:

 

[Motch6]

It’s still a popular car. My dealer said they had a lot of interest even though people couldn’t test drive it.

Kirk Kreifels on YouTube had a revealing poll the other day:
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Ya, and that confirms what one dealership told me other day when I told him that the bZ4x has some pretty low specs compared to the competition and now the recall... and they said, that there is still so much interest that they don't plan on dropping their MARKUP. bwahah... I still told them, "there are plenty of dealers that aren't marking them up, so thank you but good bye!"

 

[Motch6]

It’s still a popular car. My dealer said they had a lot of interest even though people couldn’t test drive it.

Kirk Kreifels on YouTube had a revealing poll the other day:
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Also, I"M Very curious about that VIDEO he is going to post... Guess i'll have to subscribe to his channel to make sure i get it ha!

 

[rfrancis073]

Delivery dates - as expected - just became more important….

Bloomberg - Toyota hits EV limit for tax credit.

Toyota Motor Corp. has used up a key US tax credit for hybrid and electric vehicles, a milestone that the automaker says will raise its costs and hinder adoption of climate-friendly cars.
The company said Friday that it sold 3,876 plug-in hybrid and electric cars in June. The US allows automakers to offer a $7,500 tax credit to buyers of fully or partly electric cars, but only up to 200,000 per company. Toyota’s cumulative sales of eligible vehicles have now surpassed that threshold, according to data compiled by Bloomberg and confirmed with the company.

 

[Motch6]

Delivery dates - as expected - just became more important….

Bloomberg - Toyota hits EV limit for tax credit.

Yes, as expected... Although the IRS and Federal Tax credits site haven't updated yet. probably wont' for at least another month... they seem to be super slow to update... but, be sure it will be updated before 9/30... AND most of us here are hoping our bZ's get delivered before 9/30, or its gonna hurt a lot of us! whew.

 

[BZ4X]

Prices for all trim models of bz4x rose £2,000 in the UK. Do you have the same situation in America or elsewhere?

 

[kingrikk]

Prices for all trim models of bz4x rose £2,000 in the UK. Do you have the same situation in America or elsewhere?

Wonder if they’ll sting me with that when it gets delivered… time to check my contract very carefully…

 

[BZ4X]

Wonder if they’ll sting me with that when it gets delivered… time to check my contract very carefully…

Is your car order showing in my toyota on the website?

 

[kingrikk]

Is your car order showing in my toyota on the website?

Yes. I have a completed, definite order form and an allocated car/production slot.

 

[rfrancis073]

I see same starting prices on US Toyota website. Can’t check v-spec pages right now as they were blocked. Where are you guys seeing this?

 

[BZ4X]

Yes. I have a completed, definite order form and an allocated car/production slot.

Then I dont think this will affect you anymore. As contract is singed and oder is taken by toyota uk.

 

[kingrikk]

I see same starting prices on US Toyota website. Can’t check v-spec pages right now as they were blocked. Where are you guys seeing this?

It may be that you don’t have an increase in the US. My paperwork says my Motion FWD (mid level spec in the UK) costs £45750, and on the Toyota website it is currently £47580.

We don’t have dealer markups or tax credits - the law is that the price you see is the price you pay, including "destination fees" and "title fees".

 

[Motch6]

It may be that you don’t have an increase in the US. My paperwork says my Motion FWD (mid level spec in the UK) costs £45750, and on the Toyota website it is currently £47580.

We don’t have dealer markups or tax credits - the law is that the price you see is the price you pay, including "destination fees" and "title fees".

To directly answer your question, No, there have not been any changes to the MSRP here in the US… the only thing that has or could change is our dealerships adding Markup or additional dealer fees or both!! I found a dealership that is not doing either and I’m getting it at MSRP! And yes, I have that in a written purchase order!

 

[meangreen]

The pound is now much lower against the dollar than it was a couple of months ago. Prices are going up more in the UK than elsewhere for most goods not only due to inflation but the value of the pound.

I've ordered a pure in black for £41950 and apparently August delivery. Can't see Toyota altering the price on existing orders, more concerning is how long the wheel bolts issue continues...